7/24/2007 7:14:11 AM
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Section 8: Handguns Subject: 9mm revolvers Msg# 475569
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Bob, When I carry this revolver, it will be rare, as I tend to favor automatics for carrying. Still, I like a good OWB, or IWB holster for my primary carry piece. I haven't really carried my other snubbies, but doubt that they would be a pocket gun. Your translation of Ayoob's method came across well. I think I followed it. I have two J-frames and a Charter Arms Undercover.32 S&W Long. One of the J-Frames has a 3 inch barrel, so it's relegated for training duty. My other J-Frame is a Ladysmith Snubby in .38 SPL (both are Model 60s). I switched out the Rosewood grips for a Hogue rubber grip and it made all the difference in the world. The Charter Arms is for plinking only as I don't consider the .32 S&W Long to be a viable defensive cartridge when I have 4 .45 ACP guns, 1 in 9MM and 1 in .380 sitting around. So that's two now for the internal hammer. This is obviously something I need to consider a bit more then. When I practice defensive drills with the revolvers, it's always in DA mode. Thumbing back the hammer and shooting is reserved for CAS shoots and is not something I would consider for defensive shooting. I think my local range has one for rent (if I recall correctly) and I will find out tonight when I go. Thank you again for the thoughts you and Mark (see I DO listen to him) have provided. TJ |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: PMFJI but I am curious, how do you plan to carry this revolver if you get it, what method of carry? If you carry it in an OWB or IWB holster the hammer spur will probably not be a bother. Have you spent much time drawing from concealment with your other revolvers? If so and you don't have any hangup issues then you should be fine with a hammer spur. OTOH, if you plan to carry in a pocket holster in pants or jacket, make sure you can draw easily from concealment using your other revolvers. I saw Massad Ayoob give a demonstration on TV of drawing a snubby from a weak side pants pocket and he suggested cupping the hand to grip the stock but to keep the thumb in line with the fingers rather than trying to grip the revolver as if you were drawing from a holster. (that was probably a murky translation but if you play around with the concept it might make sense) I have one jframe with a spurless hammer and one with a hammer spur both in .38 spl and a Ruger SP101 in 9mmp. If I had it to do over again, I would buy a S&W Centennial or Taurus CIA with the internal hammer. Much smoother for drawing from concealment and a higher grip to bore axis for better recoil control. I personally think Mark's lightweight Taurus 9mm revolver is uncomfortable to shoot and my stainless Ruger SP101 is only a bit better and then when I use the Combat style grip rather than the boot grip. YMMV Another thing that I have gravitated towards is to only shoot SA/DA revolvers in a DA mode. I see little value in cocking the hammer on any DA revolver except maybe a big bore hunting revolver. IMO, DA revolver shooting takes some serious practice but I am really as accurate as I need to be for SD shooting and you won't have time to cock the hammer in a fast SD situation anyway and it is something else to think about instead of focusing on getting your revolver into action. Also if you do cock the hammer and then don't need to shoot you have the somewhat unsafe action of de-cocking the hammer when your adrenalin is flowing and/or you are trying to retreat or respond to the instructions of an LEO that has responded to the scene. Do you want to attempt to run away with a cocked revolver in your hand? I sure wouldn't want to be a bystander in that situation. Just some additional thoughts on the subject. Besides, since I think any 9mm revolvers you find will be used, you will have to accept whatever model you come across rather than finding what you really need. If I keep my two snubbies with hammer spurs I am going to send them to the factory to get a spurless hammer installed as they are otherwise nice deep conceal handguns for alternative carry options. I doubt I would ever carry them in a waistband holster as I have better guns for that purpose. |