It was in keeping with their particular brand of illogic in my opinion that the military adopted the P228 as the M11 for concealment but also for "smaller hands." I've always thought this was wrong, but Shrug, it's also lasted for decades.

That, and perhaps as a sop for not winning the original contract to Beretta. Sorta a silver medal instead of the gold? You may recall that the P226 matched the Beretta in all the trials, but Beretta came in a bit cheaper.

I don't find the P228 too fat for my hand, even compared to my P225 which has a great hand fit for me. The fact that the P228 holds 15+1 vs 8+1 on the P225 is a good offset for me, although I do carry both. As for the reach length, I have the "short trigger" on my P228.

It is to their credit that SIG continues to grow like a weed, but without the competition from S&W making their TDA line just one of that sort of choice, the continuing popularity of the 1911 forcing them into that business, and other demands leading them into the ammo business, would they have continued to grow?

I think that once Sig in Exeter was left alone by the parent, they began to be more innovative and started drifting away from the P2XX series, although they still sell them. They have had their failures (P250 series), but they have done a really good job with their AR-like rifles, and their polymer striker series of pistols. Their new P365 has been another winner, and so has their winning of the new US military pistol contract. They are just a different company today, and I hope for 2 things --they continue being innovative, and that they become more price competitive. I might just put the P225 and P228 out to pasture, and buy a P365 one of these days. That assumes I can learn a new manual of arms at my age.

Harvey