2/6/2019 9:15:48 PM
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Section 25: The Lounge Subject: B-17 Sentimental Journey Msg# 1034117
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Great that you had the navigator walk you through your dad's missions. Flying in WWII was often denigrated by the on-the-ground grunts, but had they experienced what is was like being shot to pieces in the air they would have changed their minds.
My cousin was like your dad in that he didn't talk about his experiences. Even his wife didn't know much of it, other than some sleep issues. I had the chance to talk with him shortly before he died at a family party. He opened the conversation with "Lucky Number Seven" -- bullsxxt! That was his last mission, but in retrospect, he admitted it was lucky for him. The flak tore away much of the right side forward portion of the plane from the bomb bay to the nose. The bombardier next to him was killed instantly, as was the co-pilot and the flight engineer right behind the co-pilot. He and the pilot were unhurt, as was the rest of the crew, and they bailed out. How the plane landed as it did was something of a mystery to him. By rights, it should have nosed in and landed in a heap. He and the rest of the crew were captured and he and the pilot spent the next couple of years in Stalag Luft 3, site of the "Great Escape". (The movie had an error in that the Steve McQueen character, an American pilot, was housed with the Brits and Canadians. That wasn't true as the Americans and Brits were kept in separate parts of the POW camp. Dramatic license, eh?) The mission that his plane was shot down was supposed to be a fairly quiet one compared to the one he was on at Schweinfurt. Poop occurs! During the war, we occasionally received letters from my cousin through the Red Cross. They were on a flimsy little fold up sheet of paper that served as letter and envelope. that you could almost see through. I'm just sorry none of those letters survived with my mom and dad. Harvey |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: It looks like the whole front end of the plane came off but it still came down fairly lightly in a wheels-up landing. Would have been tough on any of the crew up front had they stayed with it. Dad never talked about the war but I talked to his navigator years after dad passed away. He went over all 37 missions with me... The worst one was way up the Ruhr River valley. The target was obscured by clouds and the smoke from fires set by the Germans to make bombing more difficult. They came through accurate flak without bombing, then circled and came through it again to drop the bombs. Dad and his copilot were flying their usual B-17, "Old Black Magic", and with two engines shot out they couldn't keep up with the squadron on the way back and had to drop behind. They tried to hide in the contrails left by the other planes while they limped home. A P-51 Mustang that had gotten separated from his flight spotted them and escorted them back to the Channel. Dad gave everyone the choice to bail out or land with him and they all stayed with the plane. The landing went fine and the navigator, dad, and the ground crew chief did a walkaround. They stopped counting at 300 holes in the plane varying from the size of your little finger to the size of a basketball. All four engines and both main wings had to be replaced before Old Black Magic flew again. Nobody on the crew got as much as a scratch. In fact, there were no serious injuries to anyone throughout all 37 missions. The navigator said that by the end of their tour, the whole crew had a spooky confidence in the name of the plane. |