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12/15/2019 10:16:25 PM

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Section 8: Handguns
Subject: FN 5.7 Msg# 1062432

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Kim Foster

Joined 5/26/2000

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Mark Freburg (Read) Forum Manager

Joined 4/3/2000

I’m not interested in .223 pistols. I was just commenting on the caliber.

For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where:
Eric has a P90, it's pretty cool just because of the way it feeds, and because of the whole reason it was invented (as a NATO PDW in select-fire form), but the Five-Seven is less appealing to me. A hero of a book series I liked often uses it (The Oregon Files series by Clive Cussler), but I could think of other pistols more practical. The Kel-Tec would seem to be appealing and they do advertise it as a defensive pistol for the recoil shy (see photo below). But the pistol is unattractive and not really suitable for anything else but range fun. A .22LR is cheap as you may have been intimating. I personally have no use for a .223 pistol, but TJ seems to like them. Have you gotten into .223 pistols as well, or just commenting on the caliber for use in any arms?

I agree with you and Harvey that the Rock Island is the winner of this head-to-head. It's a pretty hot round yet the pistol handles it easily. I may add one to my 1911 collection, although not that fancy pants version I showed in this thread. I'd need something more basic, which RIA now makes.

By the way guys, the original 223 TCM cartridge is one of those rounds made to work perfectly in a 1911 and it does, but it was a bit long for something built as a 9mm only, so RIA got together with Tanfoglio and built a new, modern, striker-fired polymer pistol under license from Tanfoglio that is chambered for a tweaked version of the 223 TCM called the 223 TCM9R. The case is the same but the bullet is shorter making the COAL shorter so it will fit in a shorter magazine-fore and aft--and work in this pistol which tanfoglio designed as a modern 9mm. Eric has one of those two, and it is pretty fun to shoot. Similar performance parameters as the original cartridges, but they don't interchange. It sounds logical that RIA is not going to take the world by storm with these smallish projects, but you'd be surprised at how well this stuff sells within their own community of fans.

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